Dead within 100 yards. Ideally, the best is a broadside shot through the heart, which is also through both lungs. No...I'm no expert...but I do know what works very well. I might consider someone who's done it at least a half dozen times (on a moose, remember) to be qualified to recommend it. I shoot moose when they look in my direction. Moose are large animals but that does not mean you can aim just anywhere and expect to knock down your game. Thanks Bentshaft...I hope you get a close broadsider! If you want to get completely honest and all, a pretty straight line analogy IMO. The arrow’s point of impact would have been almost dead-center in the middle of the circle on the pic I posted above. I shot one with a 250 Barnes out of a .338RUM loaded to 2950fps. To say it is a shot that should be avoided by the big majority, or all, is a bit too general in my humble opinion. Many folks aren't familiar or completely comfortable with shooting on the ground. It's been said that arrogance is a form of it. Or, for that mattert, a 6" target seeing how we are speaking on BIG, in regards to moose? https://www.alamy.com/an-up-close-front-view-of-a-wild-bull-moose-alces-alces-looking-forward-in-his-forest-habitat-in-jasper-national-park-in-alberta-canada-image381809393.html, Bull moose with velvet antlers standing in tall brush, Denali National Park, Interior Alaska, Summer, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bull-moose-with-velvet-antlers-standing-in-tall-brush-denali-national-75089014.html, Life size statues of moose in the front garden of a house in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, https://www.alamy.com/life-size-statues-of-moose-in-the-front-garden-of-a-house-in-montreal-quebec-canada-image217414593.html. It all gets back to knowledge and understanding the quarry you hunt and knowing the way they are made up. A moose was grazing in front of the purple-colored mountain at Rocky Mountain National Park. !....I love moose....! Charlie Rehor 21-Feb-14. Trick is to shoot at the heart. Copyright © 08/01/2021 Alamy Ltd. All rights reserved. I'm not telling the naysayers to take a shot that they're not comfortable taking, but please don't condone the frontal shot without the facts. We are beating a dead horse, and BB shot it! Her stage name is a direct reference to the Halsey Street station of the New York City Subway in Brooklyn. A good hit is a good shot in either scenario, but the flip side of that coin is a bad hit is a bad shot no matter it be broadside, or front on. don't get me wrong i love to take broadside shots as well but can't understand why quartering to shots are so taboo. Wich is an easy target since it’s as big as your freakin head. I know this is a controversial subject, but hear me out. Moose Vitals: A broadside or slightly quartered away Moose offers up a hunter the best chance at a double lung shot or even heart shot. Just give the frontal shot a try and then in the harvest screen switch quickly between the shot placement vision and the normal animal vision. You have to first visualize the angle to heart and the arteries above the heart and know where the major leg/shoulder bones are. I know someday I won’t be so lucky and I’ll start rethinking that shot. There are bad angles. Or taking it, as long as they made it and the animal went down in short order. A FL whitetail broadside shot I meant to say. That answer would be obvious I guess, but you don't hear too many suggesting you should never use trad gear on moose, ONLY that you be proficient with it. As one of my military buddies says, another tool in the toolbox. I’ve only been involved in three bull moose harvests (all whimpy Shiras), and much to the dismay of my back and legs, the pack jobs that followed. Frontal shot moose? I'll direct you back to my post stating "I'm decidely no expert". Ari Koess. (This has been excerpted from Moose Hunting Tips: The Ultimate Guide to Moose Hunting). While a rear shot is obviously completely unacceptable, some seasoned deer hunters opt to go for a frontal shot to the chest. I realize the OP asked for opinions and that's cool, just don't make up facts to support them, they're your opinion and that's fine. That's not an argument. You have to be a decent shot. How can people get on here and say or brag about how risky or low of a percentage shot a front shot is, when they have never taken or experienced it, with the exception of hearing or reading it from those who themselves have never taken or experienced it?!!!! (whitetail opening day). I would venture to say you would loose far less animals with that shot than on the broadside shots. You and others may not like it, but the facts remain they are deadly shots if done correctly and at short distances. These animals are built for frontal impacts...witness 2 bulls fighting. I don't think anyone on the here is saying that you should wait for a frontal shot and pass up a broadside, the OP asked if the frontal shot was your only shot, would you take it? No need to make it harder than it needs to be.....The 30 extra seconds on the 10 day hunt wasn't really all that bad..:). Getting a successful kill through the frontal zone is not as simple as carrying a stouter bow. Although moose are huge, and many think they can take 50 yards broadside shots, a number of animals are wounded each year on that shot. What is Vicki shooting...Bow #, arrow weight- anyone? That bone is too big on a moose, but not a deer with the equipment I shot. I know it's a controversial subject but would like to hear some opinions on frontal shots on a bull moose............here's the scenario. Recovered the deer by walking the area till I tripped across it. My Dad can be seen in the background up in the small tree. It is also an anagram of her first name. Saved by Oscar Ennis. the opertunity to take a frontal shot has some limitations, how is the Elk or Moose holding its head, If he were holding it up high looking up or at least up past eye level the opening would present a shot, it would have to be close and the animale would have to be completly relaxed and not see you. I guess the good thing to many of you, is that you never get to see it happen in your 8 hour wait! I'm shooting 125 grain Muzzy Phantoms at 70 pounds but won't be taking any frontal shots. Congrats to all the great bulls you guys have taken…I am jealous!! The record is 82 inches (spread) and 72 inchers are taken every year. "Can't afford the weight of five axes in my quiver.". This shot angle occurs when a deer slightly faces the bowhunter but is not head-on. But on a moose, I would make sure I was center between the legs and just under where the hip bones join under its tail. These angles allow for more arrow penetration since you are cutting lengthwise on the animal rather than shooting at the narrowest width which is the case in a broadside shot. Moose are much more prone to posture up making a broadside a very possible option...elk....not so much. I will on the other hand, try to benefit from people who have. Only God's mercy that he wasn't trampled under by the huge animal. But I will not let some arm chair, book read, quarter back, determine that it is better to shoot a broadside critter, that ends up taking 12 hours to die, with a gut shot wound and that in many cases will never be found, than it is to dispatch one in seconds, with a shot they don't truly understand or sanction. "And no matter what shot you take, be it a broadside shot or a frontal, you still have to hit close to where you are aiming". Rooster, I saw that program as well. The classic pose: Moose broadside and gazing at the hunter who is coming to full draw.... Good luck to you guys on your hunts this year. Talking about hunting and hypothetical situations, I'd imagine there'd be quite a few "if's". Stay away from that shoulder and any good broadhead will work. Their bone structure is massive in comparison. just off hand I'd guess one of the reasons not to take a frontal shot is the target is pretty small compared to a vital broadside target. I don't think any amount of opining will affect whether a guy decides to take the shot. {{total}} Frontal Shot фотографии. The bull charged and the guy just dropped the string from a foot or so away. Moose Vitals: A broadside or slightly quartered away Moose offers up a hunter the best chance at a double lung shot or even heart shot. Terms and conditions ~
This is a remote hunt where weight is an issue so I won't be using Rages (can't afford the weight of five axes in my quiver :)), Can't see why it would be a bad shot for a moose.At 15 yards you should be able to put your arrow within an inch of your aim point or better.I'm sure the openings are bigger then that Only way I wouldn't take that shot is if it was in thick cover where finding him may be an issue with no exit wound.At 15 yards, I can put my arrow exactly where it needs to be.And, at that range the arrow will penetrate deep inside the body cavity with 70lb weights.You put a 28-29" arrow completely into an animal and I don't think its going to want to go too far If we were talking 30 yards and out,then I wouldn't take the shot;too many chances for error. and be damned anyone who offers options. Again I would bet none! with a heavy bow, arrow, and a strong broadhead, I assume...Pics anybody? Huntsman...all we're doing here is trading opinions on the worthiness of the frontal shot. Now, with that being said, I would like to wish you a wonderful, and successful (however you term it) hunting season…. If the moose is looking at 3 or 9 o' clock then those are the classic broadside shots. moose, bull moose, antler, bull, head, wild animal, enclosure, animal portrait, elk park, mammal, animal Public Domain Moose hunter sitting on a stump with a litle fire in front holding his rifle pointing to the left. Speaking of broadside: I have noticed in many moose encounters (British Columbia, Yukon and Alaska) this behavior. As stated by TD, Dwight's shot was not a "frontal" chest shot. Angles can open up a shot or narrow them down. Moose. Any … Do it!" I think if everyone had an opportunity to skin, butcher and bone-out a moose, they would understand the hazards of taking certain shots. Use the rule of thirds for a broadside shot. Elksnout 21-Feb-14. Clouts79, I’ve never seen a moose stand on its hind legs like a bear. Don't mean to piss in anybody's wheaties, but that is piss poor judgement IMO. I have bow-killed 2 Alaska Yukon bulls and butchered both. This bull I called in to about 15 yards and I had to stop him by waving him down with my drawn bow to stop him.I simply held for another 30 seconds as he slowly turned to expose his barnlike side. Only thing that would worry me about a moose is the neck and dewlap(?) IMO treestand angles can be VERY limiting as to your shot selection also. Snyder also says to keep in mind that when you do take a frontal shot, “the thing you need to remember about the frontal shot is that the opening in the animal’s chest when it’s facing you isn’t much wider than the width of a softball. Leave the folding broadheads at home. It didn't take two steps during that time, and I couldn't understand how I could be missing such a big target. Frontal shot at 220 yards on mature bull, you can see that’s a fair bit of penetration and bullet is still intact, the Tahr didn’t move… We have shot approximately 50 ‘big game’ animals and a few smaller critters — wallabies and goats — with the 200gr ELD-X, and about 20 animals with the 178gr. A broadside shot opportunity may well present itself when at full draw already if they don't turn into a bush or a tree. Those who know it, who practice it, and know it's limitations, are successful with it. When the hunter stands up or reveals himself slowly, invariably the moose will slow and move into a broadside position. I've never personally taken a front shot on a moose so I can't speak to the success. However, as the angle becomes more severe, the vital area grows measurably smaller, leaving only the deer’s brisket, shoulder and rear exposed. I remember one moose I shot three times in the span of about 10 seconds. I might take a frontal shot with a heavy rifle, 300 Win Mag. Bull is close and facing head on, level ground.......only shot you have. I knew the anatomy of moose, knew my shooting abilities and knew my bow. I, personally, am not a big fan of the numbers that people arbitrarily throw out on statistics that are completely based on their opinion. And I will go one step farther, and say, that the majority of guys who wait for the animals to turn broadside, really don’t know where to aim for a clean fast kill, with lesser odds of wounding the animal they are trying to harvest. I'll be busy deciding on lots of options! IMO he was actually TRYING to get a broadside shot angle and hit too far forward. There is more problem with poor knowledge of anatomy and angles than accuracy at that range. You have a responsibility as a hunter and a human being to kill your game quickly and with as little suffering as possible. BTW I killed 8 bull moose all broadside shots from close range, had a chance to take frontal shots on a couple of occasions but waited till they turned,...and they did.. ...yes,is that easy. The heart in a Moose is slightly lower, and to get a good vital shot placement on a moose trace the closest front leg up about ⅓ of the height of his body and aim through both lungs. Some of these guys killed one moose accidentally-luckily with a frontal shot and here they are promoting their "vast experience" on this extremely high risk shot!! The ribs are only a little bigger in the front. - and the guide told him "no shot". Last fall I set up a pop up blind at a waterhole where I was hunting deer. Seriously, does anyone have any knowledge on dimensions, shot angles, etc, besides my buddy stories and cooked up stats? https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-moose-head-front-view-of-antlers-forest-icon-isolated-on-white-background-50363987.html, young moose - standing in front of house / Alces alces, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-young-moose-standing-in-front-of-house-alces-alces-17759429.html. And don't take a shot you're not comfortable with!!! Bentshat, how many frontal shots have you taken in which you lost the critter? Is a frontal shot with the same proficiency any less? There was no frontal shot on that moose due the reasons noted above - head down, waddle in the way, etc. Please let us know how the hunt goes and good luck. This also stands true for the frontal. With experience hopefully come skills. Who could argue with that shot? Makes sense, mostly. Sheesh is right. I shot a bow that was set at over 80 lbs and was shooting large snuffers. If you are considering a frontal shot, learn where the THORACIC INLET is. Moose head front view of antlers forest icon isolated on white background representing northern fauna from the wildlife of the Canadian and American north mountains for responsible hunting and natural preservation. Shooting a frontal shot is no different than a broadside, in the fact that you usually divide the critter's body into thirds, and aim along the dividing line between the bottom and middle third. I WILL experience that someday. From previous back door hits, and again, never losing an animal from that shot, I did what I felt would give me the surest and fastest kill under the circumstance available to me. Short of that, all anticipated results are only theoretical. Incidentally: The 3 A-Y bulls I referred to were all shot with longbows (2) and recurve (1). J, I wish all the very best during the upcoming season…, "This is the photo I took just before I sat my camera down and picked up my bow. No need to register, buy now! Trad gear I don't know, but with modern gear at 10, 12, 15 yards you should hit at tennis ball with each and every shot. Every time you get a critter on the ground use it as a time to study their anatomy so you understand their structure and makeup and it will help you in many situations to know where and when to shoot, to ensure you get what you hit. And by the way, I have my bowhunter education teaching certificate. If you don't know the make up of a critter or you can't put the arrow where it belongs, you will end up losing critters on either shot. I understand if the frontal shot is not for you and would never condone a shot that people don't feel comfortable with. Half-inch thick hide. It should be a slam dunk. I would much rather have happen to that deer what happened, than what will happen to many deer this fall that are shot broadside and hit in the guts and left to die a very slow, painful, death and in many cases found only by the crows and magpies. It would tend to be very deceptive where exactly you wanted to aim. You have to be under control. bull moose head shot - bull moose stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. Have you been in hunting situations with that many different people to see how they react? For the guys that have tried it, did you hit the thoracic inlet or did you punch through the ribs or in front of the shoulder? Maybe it's a display of size. Tim, bottom line is I want to kill every critter I shoot. You have to visualize angles 3d. I've taken the frontal shot once on a WT buck and was delighted with the outcome. View attachment 234445. They know better. A front view of a wild bull moose 'Alces alces', walking forward in his forest habitat in Jasper National Park in Alberta Canada. What is the Best Shot Placement for Moose? McKinley during Autumn, Denali National Park, Alaska, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bull-moose-standing-on-tundra-in-front-of-mt-mckinley-during-autumn-30579505.html. stay away from the center and you will not have a problem. you will not penetrate any of the bones in that area if you are off by an inch. Moose antlers on a log pile in front of St. Paul's Church, Trinity, Newfoundland. Estimados clientes, alertamos para as informações no nosso website relativamente ao atendimento e prazos de entrega em fase de Pandemia de Covid-19 e … Bentshaft: I'll bow to your expertise on moose any day. Click to expand... That’s a cool buck. I shoot moose when they look in my direction. Just because some got lucky and killed a moose here and there with frontal shots that does not mean that this is the shot to take and "it worked great for me" on an occasion doesn't really justify it or makes it....well, ethical. McKinley, Denali National Park, Alaska. Mother and young on front of their home. Apparently you have a problem with people not sharing your opinions in favor of the frontal moose shot...or is it the longbow your anger and sarcasm is directed toward? But telling folks that have taken truckloads of animals and have been using that shot in their toolbox for 30+ years...... that they don't know what they're talking about or don't know what they are doing..... isn't gonna get you very far. Bentshat I too have a great deal of respect for the animals I hunt. At 15 yards I wouldn't hesitate any longer than it took to settle my pin. Last I read, Bigdan has killed 16 elk with frontal shots. 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